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Secondary Type, not an Archetype?[]

I ask this because after I looked at the cards "Conduction Warrior Linear Magnum Plus Minus" and "Magnet Warrior Sigma Plus", where the Types should be listed, they are of differing lengths. I believe that "Plus" and "Minus" are secondary types, especially after comparing the Type texts of "Drawler" and "Clear Rage Golem", which are shorter than either of the aforementioned monsters. I'd like your guys' opinions on this.
I'm refraining from asking Ryusui because he seems to be taking a break from translating Japanese card lores (he has a backlog of transcribing/translation request from me). He's still active, just a bit lazy, as he randomly transcribed the Japanese lore "Deuce" without me asking (though it was one of my older requests). I'd appreciate a person who can read Japanese to confirm my theory. If no one steps up, I guess we'd ask NeoArkadia to help.
On a side note, I have also noticed that Template:Gameplay lists Union monsters, Toon Monsters, etc. as "Monster effect archetypes". Shouldn't they be listed as "Secondary Types", as seen by Category:Secondary types of Monster Cards? --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 02:35, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I don't agreed with this hearty, as it required 3 members to be a "SERIES". If you want this to be keep, then merge this with Minus into same article and explain further why they are that way. --iFredCat 23:54, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
He isn't talking about a series... He's talking about a subtype, like Gemini, Toon, or Union. MadRest 00:04, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
It's a Sub-Type like Spirit, Tuner, Toon, et al. Plus and Minus are listed next to it. Conduction Warrior Linear Magnum Plus Minus lists itself as having both Sub-Types of Plus and Minus. --NeoArkadia (talkcontribs) 14:03, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, cool. That makes much more sense than an archetype. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 19:36, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Is "Magnum" both a Plus monster and a Minus monster or is it a Plus Minus monster and neither of the other two? -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:51, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
"Fiendish Engine Ω" would like to talk with you about the "Motor" membership license. --iFredCat 19:59, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, "Power Off" (assuming the lore we have is right) seems to indicate "Plus Minus" may be another sub-type. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 20:31, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
About that... Do we have to update the lores without quotation marks, since they aren't an Archetype? Or do the lores say, "...with Plus/Minus in its name."? MadRest 20:46, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
The lore of "Power Off" seemed to indicate Plus Minus monster without quotation marks. It confused me, seeing as how we had "Plus" indicated as an archetype at the time. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 20:50, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

You guys seem to have also forgotten my second question: "On a side note, I have also noticed that Template:Gameplay lists Union monsters, Toon Monsters, etc. as "Monster effect archetypes". Shouldn't they be listed as "Secondary Types", as seen by Category:Secondary types of Monster Cards?" Or, instead of Secondary Types, sub-types? I'm not sure what the official term for it is. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 21:32, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

NeoArkadia confirmed that Plus Minus is a third (Sub-Type/Secondary Type?), as seen here. Please do something with the above question as well? I'm looking to Falzar here. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 01:48, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think there is an official category name for those. There isn't one in video games either.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:06, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Moving discussion of the second question to Falzar's page; hopefully someone will do something about the Plus Minus (Sub-Type/Secondary Type?). --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 02:15, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
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