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Six Samurai[]

@Deltaneos
If you think that this card should not be mentioned as related to "Six-Samurai"-Monsters, than the trivia entries about this should be changed to. Else I do not see why this card should not be related to them. The lore says that he serves the "Ruler of the Blue Flame" (Shien) who is considered to be "Tenkabito Shien" and/or "Great Shogun Shien". The later supports the "Six Samurai", so why not? Also, why can't an old card be related to a new archetype? Maybe it was the basis for the idea.
However, this is a quite needless discussion, since relations are just trivias with no influence on the gameplay ... Tersos 17:00, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

I removed it after seeing a problem report.
Master Guide 2 provides illustration histories for a number of cards, including the "Six Samurai" and "Great Shogun Shien". The "Shien" section mentions "Great Shogun Shien", "Tenkabito Shien", "Shien's Footsoldier", "Shien's Spy", "Enishi, Shien's Chancellor" and "Shien's Castle of Mist", but there is mention of this card. there isn't any mention of this card. Here's the entry on the "Shien" cards.
Archrelated is influenced by gameplay. "Cyclone Boomerang" is connected to the "Elemental Hero". monsters, but it is not considered an "Elemental Hero" support card anymore than an EARTH or Warrior support card, since it only supports one member in each of those groups. Archrelated was made for cards like that. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:41, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
Does this mean that a Normal Monster that does not belong to an archetype (and can not support one since it has no effect) can not be related to an archetype? Tersos 17:54, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
(Do you mean "..., but there isn't mention of this card."?)
Yeah, I meant there isn't any mention.
"Warrior of Zera" is a Normal Monster. It's not an archlord, but is connected in-game to "Archlord Zerato", so it's archrelated.
Since archrelated was first introduced, it seems to have been expanded to count cards like "Tenkabito Shien", who have a connection, but doesnt influence gameplay. Calling this archrelated probbaly would have been acceptable had there been an established connection. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:16, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
So "archerelated" is an official term? Who introduced it, Konami? I always thought it's something like a mere fan-term. Tersos 18:31, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
No, it's just the name of the template parameter. I meant since it was introduced here. -- Deltaneos (talk) 06:54, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Shien[]

Does this card belong to the "Shien" archetype (being used by "Gateway of the Six")? Same question for "Shien's Spy".

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