Riding Roid/Pagename[]
Was he confirmed to be a Riding Roid? Rather than make assumptions I think we should call the page something like "Imposter Jack Atlas", rather than "Jack Atlas (Riding Roid)". If it is confirmed that he's a Riding Roid, that's okay. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:34, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- it should be obvious he looks and sounds EXACTLY alike (aside from a few minor details) and it fits in with Placidos whole new army he jus created--RexGodwin 17:05, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Aside from details that link to that, other is hypothesis and not enough to conclude. If it is then one, then the page is changed. But until we should leaved as an Imposter character. DracoX 17:22, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- Is it obvious by what you've deduced or what the writers have implied? If the writers have actually implied it and intend for us to believe it's a Riding Roid, I think we should say it is one, unless it's proven otherwise. If they intended for us to not know what it is, I think we should treat it as unknown, unless it's proven otherwise. I really don't think we should let our own theories take over, regardless of how firmly we believe in them. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:33, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- I take it this was renamed "Jack Atlus (Riding Roid)", rather than "Jack Atlas (Riding Roid)", because the "Jack Atlas (Roiding Roid)" page already existed, so this page couldn't be moved there (without deleting a page). I think the pagename "Imposter Jack Atlas" was still better suited. Calling it "Jack Atlas (Riding Roid)", means we're calling the character "Jack Atlas" and the "(Riding Roid)" bit is just there because the pagename "Jack Atlas" was already taken. I don't think people actually call the character Jack Atlas. I think "Imposter Jack Atlas", "Fake Jack Atlas" or "Riding Roid Jack Atlas", would be better suited. Or we could do like Janime and name him in accordance to the episode title "The Other Jack". Personally I prefer "Imposter Jack Atlas". -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- Here would be up to you to decide to i think, being one of the administrators. Though yes its better to have leave at imposter stuff, sounding better and obviously coherent. Plus we do know its a robot thats not too much to argue with. So doesnt make any sense having to pinpoint this on the page name itself. DracoX 20:44, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
- It's not really entirely up to me. It wouldn't be fair for me or anyone, to force in onto what we want if there is a strong community agreement against it. Since there seems to be a bit of disagreement over what to call the page, I think it's best discuss it here before making a decision.
- But yeah, I agree with your arguments for leaving it at "Imposter Jack Atlas". -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:33, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Why was the page moved back to "Jack Atlas (Riding Roid)"? There was clearly discussion about the pagename here. If you want it changed, could you please at least contribute to the discussion, rather than arbitrarily decide, without explanation, what it should be yourself? -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:14, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
- I think I'll move it back now. It's been over 3 weeks and RexGodwin hasn't replied to any of the messages. DracoX, Trivi-AM and I are all in favour of the "Imposter Jack Atlas" title and I haven't heard anyone else support the "Jack Atlas (Riding Roid)" title. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:20, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
Wheel of Fortune[]
While "Imposter Jack Atlas'" Red Dragon Archfiend can't be explained, it should be pointed out that the Wheel of Fortune was provided for Jack by Rex Goodwin, (as Director of Sector Security) so it is possible that the Wheel of Fortune's specs are accessible to Placido's group... Rose Duelist 19:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
Agree, also that thing about having a copy of a unique and only existing card for the anime. Its not the first time we seen that stuff occur. Mean remember that on Yugioh, Marik made multiple copies of the Winged Dragon of Ra. Along with Pegasus. DracoX 21:21, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
Another note[]
I'd also like to note that, aside from copying Jack Atlas's deck, Enemy Jack Atlas copied the same strategy that Jack Atlas used to beat Mukuro Enjo in episode 8. Ruri-ruri Mode 20:53, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
Wheel of Fourtune[]
It wasn't given to Jack by Goodwin it was stolen from Yusei by Jack--Berfomet 19:00, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
You're confusing, remember that in Japanese version Jack says that the Duel Runner he stole from Yusei broke down. So Goodwin must have provide him that Wheel of Fortune. In the english version is that he says that his Duel Runner is that same one. DracoX 21:07, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
A yes you are correct but that is strange considering when we see the duel runner Yusei built in his flashback it looks exactly like the wheel of fortune....interesting--Berfomet 21:11, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
No, the first Duel Runner Yusei built looked much like a white/gray/silver version of the one Yusei owns now. Check the Duel Runner page, it's the first Duel Runner showed. Rose Duelist 18:39, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Yay its the base in that pic but when it show yusei summon stardust its the wheel of fortune I don't know if thats a mistake buts it clearly a large white spinning wheel--Berfomet 23:21, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Impostor or Imposter[]
We should make up our minds already. It's been changed back and forth quite a few times... -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 09:48, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
- Isn't "Imposter" the wrong spelling? BF2 Talk Deck Guides 12:14, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
- They're both correct.
- And it shouldn't be a US vs. EU thing.
- Well, if Wikipedia mains Impostor, then so should we. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 12:18, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
- Oh. Agreed. BF2 Talk Deck Guides 12:19, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say use one spelling because that's the one Wikipedia has used. At least not without checking why they're using that spelling. I think their policy when it comes to words with different spellings is to use the spelling best associated with the subject of the page. e.g. an article on an American topic uses American English spellings. And if the subject isn't specifically associated with one spelling, whichever was used first on the article is kept. The fact that the first person to edit the Wikipedia article used the "-or" spelling is of no relevance here. This article even used the "-er" spelling first.
- I don't think we need to go through this issue though. The character is called "Fake Jack" in the video games. "Impostor"/"Imposter" is never used officially. So I think the page should either be called "Fake Jack" or "Fake Jack Atlas". -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:20, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
- I never actually took note of what he was called in the game; here's File:Fake Jack Atlas-WC11.png proof; and that would be the latest official source, so it should be moved to it. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 14:21, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
I know this is very late, but impostor can be spelt either impostor or imposter either in American English or European English its not one of those things like mom and mum. 92.43.64.69 (talk) 14:59, November 3, 2011 (UTC)