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Speculation[]

With 3 different arrows pointing to the fact that there might be 3 more Dragon Ninjas, I think that is solid enough speculation to merit a spot on the page. (Hypothesis is that they will be WIND Insect Silver Dragon Ninja, EARTH Dinosaur Gold Dragon Ninja, and DARK Beast Black Dragon Ninja). 184.79.227.75 (talk) 14:02, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

I disagree completely. There is very little to suggest that there will be more Dragon Ninjas, or Dragon Ninjas for each Attribute/Type will be released. After all, these are Dragon Ninjas. You can relate Sea Serpent and Winged Beast back to Dragons, but Insect and Beast are not relatable to Dragons at all. Just because they can all be Special Summoned by the Ninjitsu Arts doesn't mean Dragon Ninjas will be released for each possible target Type. This is speculation and it should be removed.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 14:05, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
Winged-Beasts are as unrelatable to Dragons than Insects and Beasts are. 184.79.227.75 (talk) 14:53, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
Dragons have wings, therefore, they are winged beasts.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 15:07, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
Some what does that make Dragons without wings like this one? 184.79.227.75 (talk) 03:04, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Let me rephrase, Dragons are traditionally depicted as winged creatures, therefore, they can be related back to the term "winged beasts." Regardless, speculation is disallowed on this Wiki, whether or not you can make a good point about dragons and wings. (You haven't.)--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 09:09, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
First off, seeing as this is a Japanese based game, the very thing that would be considered a dragon in their culture would be what they consider the base requirements for a dragon. Also, I figured the very card in this series that actually IS a dragon not having wings was a good enough point, but you're right, other than her, there are no others in the entire game. 184.79.227.75 (talk) 14:07, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Tri-Horned Dragon
Mikazukinoyaiba
B. Dragon Jungle King
Yamadron
Divine Dragon Ragnarok
Lesser Dragon
Lizard Soldier
Yamata Dragon
Gravi-Crush Dragon
Frost and Flame Dragon
Interplanetarypurplythorny Dragon
Divine Dragon - Excelion
Rare Metal Dragon
Cave Dragon
Dodger Dragon
Vanguard of the Dragon
Lava Dragon
Mirage Dragon
Dragonic Guard
Golem Dragon
Photon Lizard
Trigon
Stardust Xiaolong
Darkfire Dragon
Sun Dragon Inti
Moon Dragon Quilla
Naturia Barkion
Kachi Kochi Dragon

Okay, this has somehow transformed into a conversation about Dragons without wings. The original comment was that we should mention there may be more Dragon Ninjas to come because there is "solid enough speculation". We do not put speculation, period. If there are more, we add mention of then when they are actually revealed. Until them, we don't need to mention that there may be more to come. --Golden Key (talkcontribs) 14:19, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Anyhow Unregistered is wrong, we should not add speculation. Also the Dragon Ninjas are based from the Three Flip-Effect Ninjas which now is complete though if konami wants to include other then we can just add them, simple as that but right now, we got no proof so why bother adding them? We can just simply add them if some are coming. Also unregistered user, check more Dragons, the ones you listed aren't even halfway to the number of Winged Dragons out there so yea enough already, Winged Beast can be relate to Dragons. Also the Dragon Ninjas are TCG-Exclusives, meaning they are made in AMERICA, not Japan ----SharkTenjo 15:25, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
I would wholeheartedly agree that there shouldn't be speculation on articles if this wiki didn't have speculation on numerous other pages over the years. All I'm doing here is commenting on the fact that every argument other than "no speculation" that...Yami...Wheeler...is providing is completely baseless and has no intelligent thought put behind it. Completely disregarding the fact that the common Dragon type in Yu-Gi-Oh! is of the European variety, not as you put it "AMERICA[N",] the very one depicted in White Dragon Ninja herself is of the Asian variety, which is an interesting point considering that, as you put it, "the Dragon Ninjas are TCG-Exclusives", making your point about wingless dragons unable to exist in the Dragon Ninjas as irrelevant and under-researched as YamiWheeler's argument that a Winged-Beast can be remotely considered as a dragon on the sole purpose that dragons are beasts with wings. I agree that Beasts don't tie in with Dragons, but by his own argument, a wingless dragon can easily be considered as a Beast-type since dragons are beasts. 184.79.227.75 (talk) 15:45, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
If you see speculation on other pages, remove it; as it stands, we don't need to add speculation to this page. If you two want to continue discussing what dragons look like, do it on your own talk pages, please. --Golden Key (talkcontribs) 16:04, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Look, actually we do not give any care about Dragons flying or not. Have you seen stories about Dragons in fairy tales fighting Knights? Yep they have wings.. What about the classic Dragons in the game like Blue Eyes, Red Eyes, Five-Headed Dragon. What about some notable Dragons in the game like Chaos Emperor Dragon, Trishula, Rainbow Dragon, Laggia, Galaxy Eyes, Stardust, Red Dragon Archfiend, Shooting Quasar, Black-Winged Dragon, Black Rose Dragon, Ancient fairy Dragon, Evilswarm Ouroboros, Kife Stream Dragon, Judgment Dragon, Horus LV8, REDMD, Hieratics, Malefic Truth Dragon, Dragon Master Knight, Malefic Dragons, Koaki Meiru Drago, Genesis Dragon, Dragunity Dragons, Scrap Dragon, DAD etc. They got wings.. Also Red DRAGON Ninja is Winged Beast, We are just saying that Winged Beast can relate to Dragons but NOT ALL so just shut up and move on, also if you see some speculations, remove it, they are usually added by unregistered and uneducated users. ----SharkTenjo 16:20, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
You hear that, Golden Key? He thinks you're an "uneducated user". You going to stand for that?
(Also, I never said that Yu-Gi-Oh! doesn't use the standard European dragon as the model for 3/4th of their Dragon-types. I was countering you're very own argument against Winged-Beasts having just as little to do with Dragons than Beasts do: "Also the Dragon Ninjas are TCG-Exclusives, meaning they are made in AMERICA, not Japan". Work on your listening skills, you keep burying yourself further into the ground every time you attempt to counter my arguments.) 184.79.227.75 (talk) 18:17, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Just a thought out there: Dinosaur-Types could be interpreted as dragons as well. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 18:40, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Ugh, this little unregistered user is becoming a pain in the ass. It doesn't matter how much you want to argue your useless point - we do not accept speculation on the Wiki. End of story. Period.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 19:36, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Remember how I said you never pay attention?
- "I would wholeheartedly agree that there shouldn't be speculation on articles if this wiki didn't have speculation on numerous other pages over the years." -A Wikia contributor
I never once said I was ever pro-speculation. All I was doing was pointing out all instances where you were wrong. Nothing more. And now that after defending your position so feverously up until now you are just resorting to bailing the argument, I rest my case. A Wikia contributor (talk) 00:16, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
I have better things to do than argue over something completely irrelevant that a) has no distinct right or wrong answer and could be argued endlessly and b) doesn't change anything even if it did. It doesn't matter what 'other instances' of speculation are on the Wiki, if you were a worthwhile user, you would remove them instead of adding to them, but ultimately, even if I were to continue this silly argument about what constitutes a "winged beast", it still wouldn't change the fact that you can't add speculation. If you "wholeheartedly agree", then shut up and get over it.--YamiWheeler (talkcontribs) 08:28, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

even though dragons are winged beasts, the winged beasts there talking about are called birds in the OCG version. --69.181.60.66 (talk) 09:23, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

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