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I think this would go well in a harpie deck because they swarm and they are winged- beast. Since they are dark that would help with dark Simorgh
harpies are based on keeping each other on the field to help each other but they can't swarm at all,blackwings swarm and they would be much better off on thier own. This archetype helps dark simorgh but seriously,there are much better DARK targets rather than these since they don't relate to removing from play and has no way to bring them back--Moneypony 06:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Different Dimension Blackwing[]
Most People Are Running DAD with Blackwings: I'm surprised that not that many people use DAD, Beginning Of The End, and Return From The Different Dimension. DAD for destruction, Beginning for Draw, and Return for swarm. Besides, you could easily synchro with the monsters you get from Return. Thoughts?
I am not inloved in DAD like some people but i play him. i need some advices for my deck: MONSTERS vayu mist valley soldier x2 elphin siroccox2 shura x3 gale bora x3 kalut x3 blizzard x2 d.d. crow DAD
SPELLS black whirlwind x3 swords of revealing light lightining vortex heavy storm MST smashing ground brain control
TRAPS threathening roar x3 complusory evacuation device x2 Torrential icarus x3 bottomles x2
SIDE DECK stardust x2 goyo black rose red dragon archfiend ancient fairy dragon collosal fighter gaia knight, force of earth thought ruler armor master x3 armed wing magical android iron chain dragon
Please comment and give me some advice, I am from Croatia and limited cards are different. Doc
Blackwings and Earthbound Gods[]
I can easily see this archtype being combined with Earthbound Immortal - Aslla piscu since both are DARK Attribute and Winged Beast Types. The field spell part isn't even that bad you can use Harpies' Hunting Ground or Mystic Plasma Zone. I even think Mausoleum of the Emperor might work if you just want to play Earthbound Immortal - Aslla piscu. --Sky Scourge God 18:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
no no no you idiots...this deck is going to run arond itself when raging battle comes out...they are going to run up to teir one with allures and all that support
Well maybe other stuff people mentioned like Harpies and such can't work too well with Blackwings, but Aslla piscu can still be good. It works just as well with Allure of Darkness and other Dark support cards, and its effect is killer. You don't even have to add in much support for it, just throw in a Mausoleum of the Emperor and your good to go, cause that field spell works with more than just the Earthbound God. --Sky Scourge God 19:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think that Black Feathers can work with any Earthbound God, specially Aslla piscu which needs more support than any other EBG. I can't get the reason why you people always say "Aslla piscu/Wiraqocha Rasca is a DARK Bird, like the BFs, so it should be with them". Diehard Guy 16:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Lets all just face it blackwings are the next big thing the synchros are real good ,the effects are real good its all good run strait blackwings it'll still be good i can think of 4 or 5 ,otk and stks. Im sayin whatever you take out or put in they are gonna be good.99.191.83.94 18:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Lil'd
Blackfeather's style[]
In case Blackfeather(s) is good at special sommoning,how about add Destiny Hero - Plasma in it.Yeah,now that a combo for a Blackfeather deck.If there's a blackfeather on the,special sommon more and more blackfeathers and then special sommon Destiny hero plasma.Its effect can negate all opponent's monsters effect(s),If there's a Stardust Dragon on your opponent field what needs to be afraid of,its effect is negated,Destiny hero plasma effect can destroy it and then be its equip spell card.So as Earthbound Immortals,destroy it and then gain its effect to direct attack opponent.Who needs Earthbound Immortals when you have Blackfeathers and destiny on your side?! i find it good to have a gold sarcophagus when you have dark armed dragon in the deck to get it to your hand easily
Forbidden[]
Starting from 1/9/2009,blackwings(or known as blackfeather)are forbidden,I do really want to know why blackwings was forbidden.I really can't accept this.
... erm blackwings aren't forbidden... a single blackwing got limited to one though. I have no idea how you got it into your head that they'd be forbidden... no yugioh archetype has ever been forbidden, i doubt they'd start now. --Sketa 06:40, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
there are no strategy of any archetype that work well with a harpie deck so i think that harpies can fight blackwings.
EBI[]
Never ever run EBI's in blackwings they make it way to slow and i should know i ran it in 2 tournys and i got 2 places down than i should have. any other cards in Blackwings Other than Cyber Dragon,DAD,The Dark Creator Are Bad In Blackwing Vayu Turbo however you can use a variety of other cards. Dont let anyone tell you to put Raptor Wing Strike In Blackwings it SUCKS Wings of Darkness Unite! 13:06, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
C'mon guys.[]
Stop re-adding Blackwing - Elphin the Raven, Fake Feather, Swallow's Nest and The Dark Creator to the suggested cards list. Elphin is the Jenis of Blackwings(AKA: Terribad). Fake Feather is a space that would be better spent on staples/Royal Oppression. Swallow's Nest and The Dark Creator doesn't give you advantage over the opponent and all of them slow the deck. --Reimu-H 21:07, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. Deck space should be spent on better cards that are more useful. The only time Elphin is good is in, say, Vayu Turbo, but even there's he's mediocre. ~InfinitySlayer 21:15, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
Agreed[]
I agree with Reimu here. The spaces that you're giving to things like Elphin and Fake Feather can be spent on better cards that will give you better chances of winning. Trust us, we've spent time researching how good BW decks run. --DarkHeroRaven 21:51, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
Disagree[]
I run Dark Creator and Elphin in my deck. Elphin can be an easy game changer as he has the capability of destroying such synchros as stardust or iron chain through using his summon effect. However I believe running more than one would be overkill and slow things down. Also, Dark Creator is a must if you run DAD as i do. Creator can change a sure set loss into a turn around victory with his high defense and effect. He has won me countless duels by special summoning from grave and synchroing out my black wings for the likes of armor master or stardust. Say what you want about his use in this deck..but results speak for themselves. —This unsigned comment was made by 141.218.215.218 (talk • contribs) 20:55, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
Understand the point of the list[]
The point of the list is to add cards that may be helpful and yes even though many people (including me) think elphin is not so great it could be helpful and should not be removed because you think it isn't good enough--Berfomet 01:55, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed I'm not the biggest fan of Elphin either but it does have its uses, like against Marshmallon or anything similar. I'd only suggest running 1 copy and maybe a few Double Summons--Blackwing-John 05:28, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
"Veil of Darkness" would also work in the "Vayu Turbo" list.[]
I'd also recommend for the Vayu Turbo list "Veil of Darkness", because "Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor" would be able to go into the Graveyard if you drew it with that effect. --1exodiafan1 22:16, December 30, 2009 (UTC)1exodiafan1
Blackwing without "-"??[]
Why is it that the 2/3 of the blackwing synchros dont have "-" in their names, all blackwings except the 2 of themm have "-" in their name, why do the dont have "-" in their name? just curious. 33royward 11:16, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
- As you can see, the word "Shura", "Sirocco", "Bora" and others Blackwing's "name" is a name including "Silverwind". For further clearer explanation, example: "Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame" is the name of that card and then the word "Shura" is a proper name that means "Armed" and "Armor" is not a proper name, its just a name for that card, if you want a "-" in Armed Wing the Armor Master then their names would be called as example Blackwing - "Name" the Armed Wing and Blackwing - "Name" the Armor Master. I hope you understand what I mean. BF - Black Force 11:18, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
AAh, I see Where your getting, Armor Master and Armed Wing has no name like Gale of Bora or something, so thats why, thanks dude. 119.92.109.174 08:58, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
Stop[]
people stop adding dark grepher to the regular deck list its not needed at all--76.172.248.4 17:37, May 26, 2010 (UTC)masterjuanton
agreed. its only use is in vayu turbo--Bwinggale 18:37, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Thoughts on Starstrike Blast BW Cards[]
To be honest, Aurora is BS.. Apart from it being light (Which is acutally good) I'm Stuffing him in the side deck. Abroholos, Great Card.. It's first effect is already awesome. (Although that 1K atk is a pretty big sum) 2nd effect... Can be abused with Etesian. Overall a Decent Card to Slot in your deck for those pesky Stall decks. or every other purpose. Which deck has no spells and traps? come on. Etesian, It's basically a less useful Kalut, Nuff said. (You may wanna slot in just 1 even though you don't have Abroholos, It's good for Armor Master if the opponent's monster has more than 2500 atk.)TwilightWing (talk • contribs) 01:52, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
Spirit Reaper?[]
Who the heck added Spirit Reaper to the normal deck? I see no reason why anyone would want to slip him in a blackwing deck, especially when that spot could be filled by so may other better cards. Why is that card there again?
Banned Blackwings[]
Blackwings are getting banned with Kaulte being limited, blizard getting banned and all because of their power. Glads and X-sabers are tough and u don't see them getting banned, check the new ban list99.182.209.32 (talk) 18:22, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
No blackwings are banned, and they only added Kalut to the Limited list
Yeah..... where did you get blizzard being banned??
He(or she) read the Mega-Banned without reading the first line of that page and (s)he think it was the "real" ban list. I think. WhiteStar (talk • contribs) 05:11, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
Blackwing - boobytrap[]
Can someone tell me why this card is recommended? It seems to be to situational, and needs to be targeted by a destruction card. Though this is common, it seems there could be other cards that would suit the deck better.--HiddenLight333 (talk • contribs) 05:52, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
Genex Ally Crusher[]
I believe Genex Ally Crusher should be in the recommended section. It has enough defense to withstand a most attacks, and since the entire archetype is dark, it practically guarantees the destruction of one card per turn. This card really does help the deck with even more destruction power.--HiddenLight333 (talk • contribs) 07:15, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
Re: This edit war thing[]
In case the edit summary isn't read":
@Vyomo, Uria and Hamon require specific cards (Traps/Continuous Spells, which I figure you know, but I'm posting this for the sake of making my point). Unless you run multiple copies of the needed cards, you're liable to dead draw the Beasts more often than not - and even so, running multiple copies of the needed cards might not necessarily help.
Raviel, on the other hand, needs 3 Fiends to be Summoned, which is essentially impossible if one sticks by the Recommended list.
And as for Armityle (which you'd need all 3 for, which might explain the tips you're inserting, though I'm likely wrong), it's difficult to Summon and is extremely low in the cost-effective field. Plus, none of the Beasts particularly support what the Blackwings are built for.
While I agree with you regarding how Fred is being - I think he could be much less rude about the entire thing - you should probably hold off on adding those tips to the page. If anything, keep a copy in one of your subpages (which I can explain), test the tips and make sure they work first. Lord Grammaticus (talk • contribs) 05:07, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
Merging Vayusworn[]
I think it makes sense because it could go under the part at the bottom for special builds.
Devmccall (talk • contribs) 16:08, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
Needs update on origins[]
Lots of new Blackwing cards exist since this article's creation, and some can be moved from manga to main section, as well as the synchros not having any etymology? I love the lore/origin of the cards and would love to know more about them. Xbon (talk • contribs) 14:29, August 22, 2019 (UTC)