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With the new Monarch support coming out soon, I realized something rather confusing: how can The First Monarch and The Original Monarch be 2 different monsters if, by definition, the original of something is also the first of something. Also going from there, which of the two is supposed to represent Erebus? GoldRanger14 (talkcontribs) 23:57, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, I think the Original is first, then something turned the original into Erebus the Netherworld Monarch, I mean Erebus is a Zombie, and the artwork on Original points to the monarch being something more light based, like a Fairy/Holy. So... Original is good, non-zombie Erebus -> gets turned into Zombie Monarch -> therefore, Erebus is the first Monarch, but not in his original form. If that makes some sense? But all theory on my part. --Dark Ace SP (TalkPage) 04:18, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
Also, there is still one more Monarch in that Structure Deck . . . --Dark Ace SP (TalkPage) 04:20, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
"The First Monarch" = "Erebus the Netherworld Monarch" = Erebus, the father.
"The Original Monarch" = ??? = Nyx, the mother.
I think all the Monarchs are brothers.
--Missign0 (talkcontribs) 04:45, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
That probably makes the most sense, but it brings up the question of whether the other Monarchs are supposed to be the children of Erebus and Nyx (Thanatos, etc.). --Dark Ace SP (TalkPage) 14:35, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
They could be, I hope there are new Spell/Traps showing the connection of those new and the original Monarchs, maybe their creation. Also, did Konami forget that "Kuraz" and "Delg" exists? --Missign0 (talkcontribs) 04:55, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
I think the real reason for this name confusing is : they want to release more cards to get more money , lol .

Next they will release the monster version of The Original Monarch , a Spell/Trap that shows the connection between The First and The Original , a Spell/Trap that shows the Fiend-Type The First Monarch turns to the Zombie-Type Erebus ...

Also I noticed that The First and The Original have the Chaos theme : one is DARK Fiend-Type while the other is LIGHT Fairy-Type . Daywithoutgames (talkcontribs) 13:43, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

I had just made some wild guesses and then they turned out to be true , lol : the monster version of The Original Monarch = Aither the Heaven Monarch , a Spell/Trap that shows the connection between The First and The Original = Pandeity Monarchs . Daywithoutgames (talkcontribs) 15:14, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

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