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Now for the explanation:
3 Gishki Noeria dump lots of stuff into the grave, which gets the swarm going. If I dump Mirror and a Ritual, I can return the Ritual to my hand. Also, I found that I need Noeria to dump targets for Salvage, Meditation, and Gishki Beast.
Gishki Beast works like a Blizzard in this deck, but I can make Ritual plays instead of Synchro plays. They work like this:
- 1.Summon Beast and use its effect to SS Marker.
- 2.Get Mirror with Marker.
- 3.Sac Beast and Marker for Soul Ogre.
- 1.Summon Beast and use its effect to SS Abyss.
- 2.Get Shadow with Abyss.
- 3.Discard Shadow for Mirror.
- 4.Sac Beast and Abyss for Tetra Ogre.
Noeria loads the Grave for these plays, as does Foolish.
Because I generally only use them for plays with Beast, I use 2 Marker and 1 Abyss.
Ariels usually search either Noeria, a Ritual monster, or a Shadow to search for a Ritual Spell. I could also search for anything else I needed in a pinch.
Chain lets me get up to a +3 on its summoning, and Ritual decks need card advantage to keep a lead. Also, I can stack my deck with whatever I didn't draw, making it this deck's version of Duality. I'd say it's even better in Ritual decks, because you can think at least a turn ahead by stacking your deck.
Vanity is the better Cold Wave. Enough said. I can return it via Salvage, and mill it with Noeria.
3 Soul Ogre and 2 Tetra Ogre are the boss monsters. Soul Ogre can spin cards, and Tetra, if I mill Mirror, can give me a +1 every turn. Whoopee.
3 Mirrors is obvious, because they make Ritual Summons work. They also give me pluses when I mill them with Tetra or Noeria, and give me fodder for Soul Ogre. 3 GIFSA can rid the opponent of big level 6's and 8's like Stardust and Goyo. If I bring out Soul Ogre, I can get rid of another card, thus allowing a huge comeback. Both are searchable with Shadow.
Salvage returns Beast, Abyss, Ariel, Shadow, and Vanity. These get milled by Noeria, so Salvage lets me gather stuff for my Ritual Summons. Foolish works the same way Noeria does, and Monster Reborn is a staple.
Meditation is almost exactly like Salvage for this deck, except I can return anything. If I don't have a Mirror, I search one with Shadow. If I don't have that, I search it with Ariel.
I would suggest running an additional Gishki Vanity at the cost of an Ariel, and perhaps cut another one for "Giant Trunade." She doesn't seem quick enough to be worth running 3. Also, have you considered "Imperial Iron Wall?" It's not necessary, but consider adding it to the Side Deck.
Designless Square (talk • contribs) 18:18, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
- I like it! Something you may want to consider, however, is Fishborg Blaster. It sounds odd, yes, but hear me out:
- With Fishborg and Gishki Abyss in the graveyard, summon Gishki Beast.
- Special summon Abyss, and search something from the deck.
- Discard a card to special summon Fishborg Blaster - maybe even discard the card you just searched!
- Synchro summon a level 5 or 7 synchro monster!
- With this combo you can get an easy Gungnir, Dragon of the Ice Barrier! It's at least as good as Evigishki Soul Ogre for getting you card advantage. Runer5h (talk • contribs) 18:32, January 1, 2011 (UTC)Runer5h
- There's a divide between the usefulness of "GIFSA" and the usefulness of the Mirror. With the odd Level of Fishborg Blaster, a regular Ritual Summon becomes impossible, but odd-Leveled monsters on the opponent's side of the field become more vulnerable to "GIFSA." It depends on whether the Deck can keep a half-ATK Soul Ogre or whether it usually dies the next turn.
- On the plus side, it's not too hard to get Fishborg Blaster into the Graveyard.
Designless Square (talk • contribs) 18:55, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
- YOU SIR ARE A GENIUS.
- Seriously, how the hell did I never think of that... Anyways, I'm still really advocating using a Fishborg. Runer5h (talk • contribs) 01:38, January 2, 2011 (UTC)Runer5h
What do you think I should take out? Yeah, GIFSA is awesome. I once drew it when the opponent had a Stardust and DAD out. ME: GIFSA, sac Star for ogre, discard one to spin DAD. OTHER GUY: WHAT THE.......... ShortCircuitFTW (talk • contribs) 02:40, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
- Actually... maybe you shouldn't use the Fishborg. I'm actually testing out Ritua now, and it's surprisingly difficult to get to the graveyard. Runer5h (talk • contribs) 02:49, January 2, 2011 (UTC)Runer5h
I forgot that Soul Ogre can only discard "Gishkis" for its cost. It looks much tougher to ditch the Fish now. Perhaps Level Eater would be appropriate for supporting "GIFSA" while an Ogre is on the field. I suppose it depends on how often you Ritual Summon with a Ritual Monster on the field as a Tribute.
- EDIT: I just realized that you can't use Level Eater as Ritual Tribute. Designless Square (talk • contribs) 04:09, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
- Have you considered "Ascending Soul?" It constantly refills your hand after a Ritual Summon.
Designless Square (talk • contribs) 18:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)